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TheRPS Game Clubreturns for its second liveblog session, this time about the weird and wonderfulBetrayal At Club Low. Join us from4pm BST today, April 28th, where we’ll be chatting all things pizza and our best disco moves. Lots of the RPS Treehouse have had a great time with Club Low this month, and we hope you’ve been playing along too. So why not come and join in the discussion with us? See you at 4pm, folks!
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14:45 pmUTCTesting, testing, one, two… Welcome all, we’ll be starting in about 15 minutes, so grab a drink, do some stretches and we’ll bust out some liveblog moves very soon.
Testing, testing, one, two… Welcome all, we’ll be starting in about 15 minutes, so grab a drink, do some stretches and we’ll bust out some liveblog moves very soon.
15:01 pmUTCIt’s 4 o’clock, which means it’s Betrayal at Club Low chat time. Welcome all!
It’s 4 o’clock, which means it’s Betrayal at Club Low chat time. Welcome all!
15:01 pmUTCI’d like to kick off with a very important question: what is the best pizza topping? GO.
I’d like to kick off with a very important question: what is the best pizza topping? GO.
15:04 pmUTCIn real life, I’m pretty boring. I’m usually a ham, mushroom, chicken kinda gal. But in Club Low, it’s Truth Peppers and Durian all the way.
In real life, I’m pretty boring. I’m usually a ham, mushroom, chicken kinda gal. But in Club Low, it’s Truth Peppers and Durian all the way.
15:04 pmUTCI_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Truth Peppers. Crunchy and indispensable.Truth.
I_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Truth Peppers. Crunchy and indispensable.Truth.
Truth.
Whatdoesflamingo meat taste of though? Is it one of those many things that just taste like chicken? I would love to know.
15:06 pmUTCKernel Zanders says:Got a soft spot for basil.Love a bit of basil. A classic. A staple. Can’t have pizza (or pesto) without it.
Kernel Zanders says:Got a soft spot for basil.Love a bit of basil. A classic. A staple. Can’t have pizza (or pesto) without it.
Love a bit of basil. A classic. A staple. Can’t have pizza (or pesto) without it.
15:07 pmUTCDurian swapping dice is invaluable! Definitely my clutch topping of choice. Even if I have often then needed a Truth Peppers reroll to save me from the durian. I dedicate my life to hubris and daring the fates.In terms of real pizza, hand on heart, the only topping I miss as a longtime vegetarian is donner kebab meat. Absolute filth. Beautiful. But I like mushrooms too.
Durian swapping dice is invaluable! Definitely my clutch topping of choice. Even if I have often then needed a Truth Peppers reroll to save me from the durian. I dedicate my life to hubris and daring the fates.In terms of real pizza, hand on heart, the only topping I miss as a longtime vegetarian is donner kebab meat. Absolute filth. Beautiful. But I like mushrooms too.
Durian swapping dice is invaluable! Definitely my clutch topping of choice. Even if I have often then needed a Truth Peppers reroll to save me from the durian. I dedicate my life to hubris and daring the fates.
In terms of real pizza, hand on heart, the only topping I miss as a longtime vegetarian is donner kebab meat. Absolute filth. Beautiful. But I like mushrooms too.
15:07 pmUTCrolloroyce says:I definitely would have failed without durian. Pulled me out of several tight spotsThe durian was an absolute lifesaver in a lot of circumstances, for sure. God bless the durian. The most profitable Animal Crossing fruit, and the best Club Low topping. Butwhydoes it taste and smell sobaaaaaad???
rolloroyce says:I definitely would have failed without durian. Pulled me out of several tight spotsThe durian was an absolute lifesaver in a lot of circumstances, for sure. God bless the durian. The most profitable Animal Crossing fruit, and the best Club Low topping. Butwhydoes it taste and smell sobaaaaaad???
The durian was an absolute lifesaver in a lot of circumstances, for sure. God bless the durian. The most profitable Animal Crossing fruit, and the best Club Low topping. Butwhydoes it taste and smell sobaaaaaad???
15:08 pmUTCEight minutes in and civil war has yet to break out over pineapple on pizza? This must be some kind of record-breaking pizza chat.
Eight minutes in and civil war has yet to break out over pineapple on pizza? This must be some kind of record-breaking pizza chat.
You have to win it from yer manager man in the green room. I barely did it the first time. A classic draw of the dice.
If you get it, though, it’s so good. If rolled, it swaps your numbers over with your opponents. Which can be terrible if you roll a good hand initially, but can be just the thing to turn an unwinnable situation around.
15:12 pmUTCRebecca says:Eight minutes in and civil war has yet to break out over pineapple on pizza? This must be some kind of record-breaking pizza chat.Hey, if you’re saying you’re a pineapple on pizza person, that civil war can start right now…
Rebecca says:Eight minutes in and civil war has yet to break out over pineapple on pizza? This must be some kind of record-breaking pizza chat.Hey, if you’re saying you’re a pineapple on pizza person, that civil war can start right now…
Hey, if you’re saying you’re a pineapple on pizza person, that civil war can start right now…
15:14 pmUTCImage credit:Rock Paper ShotgunI also wish to show off how organised my pizzas are. I have never baked a real pizza this tidy. Now that’s what I call a gaming power fantasy.
Image credit:Rock Paper ShotgunI also wish to show off how organised my pizzas are. I have never baked a real pizza this tidy. Now that’s what I call a gaming power fantasy.
Image credit:Rock Paper Shotgun
I also wish to show off how organised my pizzas are. I have never baked a real pizza this tidy. Now that’s what I call a gaming power fantasy.
Artichoke is one of those real marmite choices for me. I’ll tolerate it, but I don’t love it.
15:15 pmUTCKatharine says:Hey, if you’re saying you’re a pineapple on pizza person, that civil war can start right now…Oh well then, it’s officially on! The great RPS pizza rift starts here.
Katharine says:Hey, if you’re saying you’re a pineapple on pizza person, that civil war can start right now…Oh well then, it’s officially on! The great RPS pizza rift starts here.
15:16 pmUTCAlice O’Connor says:Image credit:Rock Paper ShotgunI also wish to show off how organised my pizzas are. I have never baked a real pizza this tidy. Now that’s what I call a gaming power fantasy.Those are some beautifully organised pizzas. Mine were all over the shop.
Alice O’Connor says:Image credit:Rock Paper ShotgunI also wish to show off how organised my pizzas are. I have never baked a real pizza this tidy. Now that’s what I call a gaming power fantasy.Those are some beautifully organised pizzas. Mine were all over the shop.
Image credit:Rock Paper Shotgun
I also wish to show off how organised my pizzas are. I have never baked a real pizza this tidy. Now that’s what I call a gaming power fantasy.
Those are some beautifully organised pizzas. Mine were all over the shop.
15:16 pmUTCI’ll just be over here custom-ordering my veggie hot pizza with pineapples, pineapple + jalapeno being a god-tier combo that no one else seems to have hit upon, for some strange reason…
I’ll just be over here custom-ordering my veggie hot pizza with pineapples, pineapple + jalapeno being a god-tier combo that no one else seems to have hit upon, for some strange reason…
15:17 pmUTCmichael.neirinckx says:I haven’t played Betrayal at Club Low yet. I was absolutely jazzed with the Norwood Suite and recently played through Tales from Off Peak City. Can’t wait to play sometime later this year.Oh, you’ll love Club Low, I think. Very similar deal. Tales From Off Peak City also has the infamous flamingo meat, and lets you make pizzas as well!
michael.neirinckx says:I haven’t played Betrayal at Club Low yet. I was absolutely jazzed with the Norwood Suite and recently played through Tales from Off Peak City. Can’t wait to play sometime later this year.Oh, you’ll love Club Low, I think. Very similar deal. Tales From Off Peak City also has the infamous flamingo meat, and lets you make pizzas as well!
Oh, you’ll love Club Low, I think. Very similar deal. Tales From Off Peak City also has the infamous flamingo meat, and lets you make pizzas as well!
15:20 pmUTCImage credit:Rock Paper ShotgunI did my best to maximise tips with my pizza dice, but I rarely succeeded.
Image credit:Rock Paper ShotgunI did my best to maximise tips with my pizza dice, but I rarely succeeded.
Image credit:Rock Paper Shotgun
I did my best to maximise tips with my pizza dice, but I rarely succeeded.
15:20 pmUTCJust realised you had $106, Alice0! A mad amount of money!
Just realised you had $106, Alice0! A mad amount of money!
Just realised you had $106, Alice0! A mad amount of money!
15:22 pmUTCHow did folks find getting money in general? I always felt like I was scrimping due tobarely succeedinga lot of the time in my dice rolls.
How did folks find getting money in general? I always felt like I was scrimping due tobarely succeedinga lot of the time in my dice rolls.
15:22 pmUTCKernel Zanders says:Curious if anyone here has ever had an actual dessert pizza. Or a more “concept” pizza with sushi ingredients.I once had a dessert pizza with a cookie base. It was… a lot. I shared it with three other people and 1/4 of one of those things is definitely enough!
Kernel Zanders says:Curious if anyone here has ever had an actual dessert pizza. Or a more “concept” pizza with sushi ingredients.I once had a dessert pizza with a cookie base. It was… a lot. I shared it with three other people and 1/4 of one of those things is definitely enough!
15:23 pmUTCYou brave soul, Rebecca.
You brave soul, Rebecca.
15:24 pmUTCI’m curious: was this anyone’s first game in the series? I played from the start, and have been going around telling pals no it’s fine you can jump in whenever, the connections between games are not vital to understanding. And I think that’s true? An overarching story certainly does develop but I reckon it’s fine to start with whichever most appeals, then maybe later enjoy going back and discovering the connections if you dig it? Right? I hope I have not been handing out bad advice.
I’m curious: was this anyone’s first game in the series? I played from the start, and have been going around telling pals no it’s fine you can jump in whenever, the connections between games are not vital to understanding. And I think that’s true? An overarching story certainly does develop but I reckon it’s fine to start with whichever most appeals, then maybe later enjoy going back and discovering the connections if you dig it? Right? I hope I have not been handing out bad advice.
I’m curious: was this anyone’s first game in the series? I played from the start, and have been going around telling pals no it’s fine you can jump in whenever, the connections between games are not vital to understanding. And I think that’s true? An overarching story certainly does develop but I reckon it’s fine to start with whichever most appeals, then maybe later enjoy going back and discovering the connections if you dig it? Right? I hope I have not been handing out bad advice.
15:26 pmUTCI think that’s pretty solid advice. There’s a throughline with Tales From Off-Peak and Club Low with the pizza making and some of the ingredients, but I think they can defo be enjoyed on their own without playing them in order.
I think that’s pretty solid advice. There’s a throughline with Tales From Off-Peak and Club Low with the pizza making and some of the ingredients, but I think they can defo be enjoyed on their own without playing them in order.
15:27 pmUTCKernel Zanders says:Has anyone here attempted 4AM Mode?I’ve done 4am. Honestly, I expected it to be more trouble. But as Katharine’s wonder at my wallet might suggest (didn’t even mention my dice were half-full of sixes), I have played it through a few times, so I knew where the whack and lean on the game to force advantages. I liked that little test of needing that knowledge.
Kernel Zanders says:Has anyone here attempted 4AM Mode?I’ve done 4am. Honestly, I expected it to be more trouble. But as Katharine’s wonder at my wallet might suggest (didn’t even mention my dice were half-full of sixes), I have played it through a few times, so I knew where the whack and lean on the game to force advantages. I liked that little test of needing that knowledge.
I’ve done 4am. Honestly, I expected it to be more trouble. But as Katharine’s wonder at my wallet might suggest (didn’t even mention my dice were half-full of sixes), I have played it through a few times, so I knew where the whack and lean on the game to force advantages. I liked that little test of needing that knowledge.
15:28 pmUTCI_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:@Kernel Yes, I attempted 4 AM in conjunction with Iron Chef and died to a door that was also a fire hazard.On my very first playthrough, I punched the laser door just to see what would happen. Needless to say, it did not end well.
I_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:@Kernel Yes, I attempted 4 AM in conjunction with Iron Chef and died to a door that was also a fire hazard.On my very first playthrough, I punched the laser door just to see what would happen. Needless to say, it did not end well.
On my very first playthrough, I punched the laser door just to see what would happen. Needless to say, it did not end well.
15:32 pmUTCThe readers have spoken, Alice0. You can rest easy knowing your advice all these years has been very sound.
The readers have spoken, Alice0. You can rest easy knowing your advice all these years has been very sound.
15:33 pmUTCDespite going into my second playthrough determined to build up skills like cooking and wit and not the traditional RPG things like deception, those still ended up being the skills I left behind the most.
Despite going into my second playthrough determined to build up skills like cooking and wit and not the traditional RPG things like deception, those still ended up being the skills I left behind the most.
15:33 pmUTCrolloroyce says:The only other Cosmo D I’ve played is Off-Peak (the short free one, not Tales From) and I had no difficulty entering the weird world of Club LowBecause it’s always worth plugging… for the benefit of everyone: the original Off-Peak is freeon Steamand pay-what-you-want (no minimum)on Itch. I replayed it this week and it’s still such a striking start to the series. Comes out with such confidence. And then to continue that across another three games…! It probably is my favourite series of games, and it works well in part because it’s a series of fragments. I, uh, should technically be finishing a post on that subject right now rather than doing this.
rolloroyce says:The only other Cosmo D I’ve played is Off-Peak (the short free one, not Tales From) and I had no difficulty entering the weird world of Club LowBecause it’s always worth plugging… for the benefit of everyone: the original Off-Peak is freeon Steamand pay-what-you-want (no minimum)on Itch. I replayed it this week and it’s still such a striking start to the series. Comes out with such confidence. And then to continue that across another three games…! It probably is my favourite series of games, and it works well in part because it’s a series of fragments. I, uh, should technically be finishing a post on that subject right now rather than doing this.
Because it’s always worth plugging… for the benefit of everyone: the original Off-Peak is freeon Steamand pay-what-you-want (no minimum)on Itch. I replayed it this week and it’s still such a striking start to the series. Comes out with such confidence. And then to continue that across another three games…! It probably is my favourite series of games, and it works well in part because it’s a series of fragments. I, uh, should technically be finishing a post on that subject right now rather than doing this.
15:36 pmUTCKernel Zanders says:So often I’d get to like 2 2 2 6 7 7 on a skill, that sort of thing. it was more high risk / high reward, but that felt like a good fit for the experience.I never quite got to 6s and 7s, but big same on this. Went big on a couple of numbers, but still a lot of 2s all over the place.
Kernel Zanders says:So often I’d get to like 2 2 2 6 7 7 on a skill, that sort of thing. it was more high risk / high reward, but that felt like a good fit for the experience.I never quite got to 6s and 7s, but big same on this. Went big on a couple of numbers, but still a lot of 2s all over the place.
I never quite got to 6s and 7s, but big same on this. Went big on a couple of numbers, but still a lot of 2s all over the place.
15:37 pmUTCI_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Rebecca, mine were pretty similar overall. The main differences were permanent conditions such as the mask, which made me a beast with physical aptitude. That’s not the name of that skill, is it? Physical physicality.Oh, I feltwaytoo powerful once I got hold of that mask. (Apparently the skill it affects is called Physique, but I’ll admit I just had to look it up.)
I_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Rebecca, mine were pretty similar overall. The main differences were permanent conditions such as the mask, which made me a beast with physical aptitude. That’s not the name of that skill, is it? Physical physicality.Oh, I feltwaytoo powerful once I got hold of that mask. (Apparently the skill it affects is called Physique, but I’ll admit I just had to look it up.)
15:38 pmUTCrolloroyce says:I succeeded (barely) with balanced dice. In retrospect I think it would have been smarter to invest in certain skills. But I loved your post, Katherine, about the joy of barely succeeding. That’s so often what I like most about games–just eking out the winHaha, thank you! (and no sweat on the spelling!)
rolloroyce says:I succeeded (barely) with balanced dice. In retrospect I think it would have been smarter to invest in certain skills. But I loved your post, Katherine, about the joy of barely succeeding. That’s so often what I like most about games–just eking out the winHaha, thank you! (and no sweat on the spelling!)
Haha, thank you! (and no sweat on the spelling!)
15:43 pmUTCOh man, Big Mo’s big 10s were truly terrifying. If I attempt another run, I’ll have to find Godwhacker’s good grind spots and earn myself some more cash!
Oh man, Big Mo’s big 10s were truly terrifying. If I attempt another run, I’ll have to find Godwhacker’s good grind spots and earn myself some more cash!
15:43 pmUTCAbsolutely flummoxed my way through that entire conversation on my first go. Mortified all the way down doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Absolutely flummoxed my way through that entire conversation on my first go. Mortified all the way down doesn’t even begin to describe it.
15:45 pmUTCHow did everyone else’s encounters with Big Mo go?
How did everyone else’s encounters with Big Mo go?
15:49 pmUTCrolloroyce says:Big Mo really liked me somehow. It reminded me of real-life situations where someone takes a shine to me and I can’t really see why (and therefore feel sort of suspicious)There was a moment where I’d managed to pull it back from making a terrible stew, and then I instantly upset him again. Though I did manage to say the escape word and have him not notice on a complete fluke, which I’m still quite proud of.
rolloroyce says:Big Mo really liked me somehow. It reminded me of real-life situations where someone takes a shine to me and I can’t really see why (and therefore feel sort of suspicious)There was a moment where I’d managed to pull it back from making a terrible stew, and then I instantly upset him again. Though I did manage to say the escape word and have him not notice on a complete fluke, which I’m still quite proud of.
There was a moment where I’d managed to pull it back from making a terrible stew, and then I instantly upset him again. Though I did manage to say the escape word and have him not notice on a complete fluke, which I’m still quite proud of.
15:50 pmUTCrolloroyce says:Big Mo really liked me somehow. It reminded me of real-life situations where someone takes a shine to me and I can’t really see why (and therefore feel sort of suspicious)Extremely well put, I probably relate to this more than I should. Big Mo was very scary and so I set out to ingratiate myself as shamelessly as possible, and it worked! For the most part.
rolloroyce says:Big Mo really liked me somehow. It reminded me of real-life situations where someone takes a shine to me and I can’t really see why (and therefore feel sort of suspicious)Extremely well put, I probably relate to this more than I should. Big Mo was very scary and so I set out to ingratiate myself as shamelessly as possible, and it worked! For the most part.
15:51 pmUTCKernel Zanders says:Big Mo captured me more than not. But the few times I fooled him, I felt ice cool.So cool.
Kernel Zanders says:Big Mo captured me more than not. But the few times I fooled him, I felt ice cool.So cool.
So cool.
15:52 pmUTCI_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Big Mo was not impressed with my lack of DJing skills. He grew to like me eventually, or at least tolerate me.Oh interesting! He made no comment on the tune I eventually played on the DJ decks, so I didn’t know this factored in to whether he liked you or not. Good to know…
I_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Big Mo was not impressed with my lack of DJing skills. He grew to like me eventually, or at least tolerate me.Oh interesting! He made no comment on the tune I eventually played on the DJ decks, so I didn’t know this factored in to whether he liked you or not. Good to know…
Oh interesting! He made no comment on the tune I eventually played on the DJ decks, so I didn’t know this factored in to whether he liked you or not. Good to know…
15:53 pmUTCrolloroyce says:One thing I especially enjoyed was the application of dice/RPG mechanics to non-combat situations. (Mostly–I did gratuitously take out a couple of security guards.) Anyone have suggestions for games that do something similar?Citizen Sleeper is real good for this.
rolloroyce says:One thing I especially enjoyed was the application of dice/RPG mechanics to non-combat situations. (Mostly–I did gratuitously take out a couple of security guards.) Anyone have suggestions for games that do something similar?Citizen Sleeper is real good for this.
Citizen Sleeper is real good for this.
15:54 pmUTCI_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Can we conjure a portal into this world somehow? Many of the games I play are set in lethal or inhospitable environments and even the ones that aren’t are not places that I would necessarily want to spend much time in in real life. Proteus? It sure is pretty but where’s the Wi-Fi and the working toilet? However, I want to live in Cosmo D’s city. I want to enter the anthropomorphic buildings, talk about art with the shimmering prodigies and dance with the skull-masked ravers.I wouldn’t mind holidaying in Off-Peak City, but I think I’d go mad living there.
I_have_no_nose_but_I_must_sneeze says:Can we conjure a portal into this world somehow? Many of the games I play are set in lethal or inhospitable environments and even the ones that aren’t are not places that I would necessarily want to spend much time in in real life. Proteus? It sure is pretty but where’s the Wi-Fi and the working toilet? However, I want to live in Cosmo D’s city. I want to enter the anthropomorphic buildings, talk about art with the shimmering prodigies and dance with the skull-masked ravers.I wouldn’t mind holidaying in Off-Peak City, but I think I’d go mad living there.
I wouldn’t mind holidaying in Off-Peak City, but I think I’d go mad living there.
15:58 pmUTCJust a quick note to say it’s five minutes to home time for the RPS Treehouse now, so we’ll be wrapping up this liveblog discussion shortly. Thank you to everyone who’s joined in! It’s been good fun! We’ll keep the comment chat open for a little while longer, but a big thank you again to all of you here.
Just a quick note to say it’s five minutes to home time for the RPS Treehouse now, so we’ll be wrapping up this liveblog discussion shortly. Thank you to everyone who’s joined in! It’s been good fun! We’ll keep the comment chat open for a little while longer, but a big thank you again to all of you here.
Thank you! :D
16:02 pmUTCGodwhacker says:Did anyone actually properly laugh at anything though? I enjoyed it, thought it was a bit funny, but in comparison to Hi-Fi Rush or even the funny bits of Disco Elysium there wasn’t a point where I thought “this is hilarious”, more “this is amusing”, like the New Years episodes of Taskmaster where they get “celebrities” rather than “comedians"I’ve never found it hilarious but I was often delighted. Delight is underrated. I wish more games would try to delight me than make me laugh. Because, you know, so few games trying to be funny actually are, and that’s a painful feeling.
Godwhacker says:Did anyone actually properly laugh at anything though? I enjoyed it, thought it was a bit funny, but in comparison to Hi-Fi Rush or even the funny bits of Disco Elysium there wasn’t a point where I thought “this is hilarious”, more “this is amusing”, like the New Years episodes of Taskmaster where they get “celebrities” rather than “comedians"I’ve never found it hilarious but I was often delighted. Delight is underrated. I wish more games would try to delight me than make me laugh. Because, you know, so few games trying to be funny actually are, and that’s a painful feeling.
I’ve never found it hilarious but I was often delighted. Delight is underrated. I wish more games would try to delight me than make me laugh. Because, you know, so few games trying to be funny actually are, and that’s a painful feeling.
16:04 pmUTCSerious question now that it’s home-time: how many people are thinking of sacking off their dinner plans and ordering pizza after this?
Serious question now that it’s home-time: how many people are thinking of sacking off their dinner plans and ordering pizza after this?
I approve.
16:13 pmUTCGodwhacker says:Disappointed that Katherine isn’t signing off with “SEE YA…“SEE YA!
Godwhacker says:Disappointed that Katherine isn’t signing off with “SEE YA…“SEE YA!
SEE YA!
